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vmattia, October 19,  2017  5:38pm EST

Muay thai / kickboxing with AFIB

Hello afib afiocionados!

I was just diagnosed with Afib - stil going thru the process of determining best course of action - for now I am on Xarelto (20mg 1 per day). yay!

I was wondering if any of you is into martial arts/kickboxing/muay thai and how you deal / have dealt with training and afib. 

I do not do fights and when I spar is very light (if any). Most of my training is a bit of warm up (I can control intensity), technical programming and then hitting the

pads and bags (light to medium intensity) 

Any suggetion, any tip or recommendation?

thank you in advance

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  • jseitz
    jseitz, October 25,  2017  11:45am EST
    Hi, vmattia‍,Thanks for posting your training question! It appears that you might be the very first My AFib Experience member who has posted about martial arts training! There have been prior discussions about other types of workouts and general exercise, though -- perhaps some of those posts might be helpful to you. Please keep us posted on what you and your doctors determine is the best solution for keeping active while managing AFib. Best,Jonelle (Community Admin member)
  • vmattia
    vmattia, October 26,  2017  3:54am EST
    Thank you Jonelle!
  • Fish
    Fish, October 26,  2017  11:47am EST
    Hi I have been teaching Karate here in Canada for over 50 years, and kind of retired a couple of years ago. I developed AFib a little over 16 months ago. I still do a short Karate training warm up at the gym 2 to 3 times a week (Push ups, stretching setups etc., prior to a cardio workout on the treadmill, and a little weight trying after. With having AFib and being on Rivaroxaban (Blood Thinner??) I would be extremely cautious doing at least Karate, which can entail many techniques that could cause internal bleeding. These could include “break falls, various vigorous vibration type moves involving kicking and punching, etc. and most seriously sparring which can result in punch’s and kicks to the head and body, sometimes not totally controlled. Just my 2 cents (Canadian) of thoughts on AFib and Martial Arts Fish from Canada
  • mgarcia
    mgarcia, October 27,  2017  2:45am EST
    Good morning, I have been training martial arts for over 40 years. I was told I had a-fib about 2 years ago. I have slowed down quite a bit but I excersise for longer periods of time. I focus on my forms, light techinques, and have stopped full contact fighting. I do breathing techinques and my forms twice everyday. This has also helped with my blood pressure issues. Do not stop martial arts but do slow down and take your time.
  • Rrosendahl
    Rrosendahl, October 27,  2017  4:42pm EST
    I've been practicing Tae Kwon Do for 15 or so years and had my first episode 5 years ago. I'm only taking baby aspirins and my episodes are very sporadic (once every 20 months). I have not slowed down and do what I used to including sparring and getting hit. While my episodes started after TKD sessions, my pattern seems to be more triggered by drinking fluids during cool-down more so than by martial arts itself (at least that's my theory).
  • Jinny
    Jinny, October 28,  2017  3:40am EST
    You people might try taiji. I know most people consider it a sort of slow gymnastic exercise but I assure you, it is a martial art. The only thing is that is practiced slowly, but when used as a martial art, it's much faster and more efficient than many of the other arts. Check out some videos in Internet. And, it's also good for you, helps develop balance, flexibility, bone density, lowers blood pressure, etc., etc.
  • K9Trainer
    K9Trainer, October 29,  2017  4:02am EST
    Add 500 mg Magnesium health food store
  • mikelipsky
    mikelipsky, October 30,  2017  5:17am EST
    I'm a boxer and have had afib for 5-6 years now and got an ablation last fall. My epsidoes were sporadic (paroxysmal afib) and my EP kept me on baby aspirin unless they lasted more than 24 hours (at which time I'd go on Eliquis for at least two weeks). With the exception of my time on Eliquis, I did nothing different. I engaged in full contact sparring and lifted, ran and biked just as hard. Over time, the episodes lengthened to two weeks or longer. Getting the ablation was the best decision I could have made. I was very nervous about it, but have not had an episode since. After a period of a few months on Eliquis and Metoporol, I'm free of all meds and am back in full training mode. There IS hope.That being said, take serious the waringins about activities on blood thinners. Sparring and all forms of contact are out. I was able to keep up pad and bag work without any hand bruising, but everything is individual. Talk to your EP about whether you need to be on blood thinners permanently. I discussed that at length with my doctor, considering my age, CHADS2 score (0) and activity level (family ski trips, mtn biking, etc). Given the overall picture, we made the decision that the costs outweighed the benefits with the blood thinners. No one treatment protocol is correct for everyone and an informed decision requires lots of information. If your doctor doesn't have the time to discuss this at length with you, find an EP who does. An EP you trust and have a gret rapport with is probably the most crucial element in treatment.Good luck and keep us informed!
  • vmattia
    vmattia, November 2,  2017  11:56am EST
    Thank you all for the thoughtful contributions! I am slowing down a bit the muay thai training and I am partnering without sparring nor heavy hits - just pads and a bit of bags. mostly cardio exercises.however I  switched to swimming for the majority of my training - while I am working with the cardiologist on the next steps. Visit with specialist in a week - so I wil know more about it and will definitely share the feedback.thank you - I (heart) you - literally. :)
  • AFIBLifter
    AFIBLifter, May 27,  2019  8:11am EST

    I quit MMA when I was put on Eliquis. I don't think anticoagulants works very well with being hit in the head (internal bleeding). I hearvarious advice regarding lifting heavy and very intense exercise but see no studies /evidence behind the advice. tough one...please keep us updated. by teh way: I'm AFIBLIFTER on instagram too if you want to see my story :)


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